Hi Bruce, The metal ring that is left in your timing cover is indeed part of the crankshaft seal and must be removed in order to replace the seal. I usually take an old screwdriver and drive the seal out from the front. It does fit tight and has the be driven back in place. Steve Miner Miner Auto Service Winnebago, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Stubblefield" <audiblefeast@xxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: IML: timing chain cover seal > Hello all, > Re: the mighty '78 NYB with it's 400 ci engine. > I'm ready to re-install the timing chain cover, but > have a question about the seal for anyone who has > actually done this. > The timing chain cover is a stamped piece of > steel. Where the seal goes there seems to be circular > pressed piece of steel with a lip at the bottom, > creating a (approx) 1/16" channel between the > pressed-in piece and the stamped timing chain cover. > This pressed-in piece appears the same metal and > thickness as the timining chain cover itself, which > made me think that it was a part of the cover. When I > removed the old fossilized seal, the rubber part came > out of this circular metal piece relatively easily, > making me think the seal was just the rubber that came > out. HOWEVER, the new seal from the kit (that the > parts guy says goes on many other Mopars) has the same > outside diamter as the outside diameter of the > circular pressed-in piece. To use it , I would have > to pull out the circular piece, which is in so snugly > that I am afraid of distorting the timing chain cover. > At least I will surely destroying the circular > piece. > Does anyone know if this is what I need to do? I > can send pics if needed. > > Thanks > Bruce S > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > >